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10 07 2008

wait, no “tomoyo meido” storyline?

tagged clannad:tomoyo, moe:meido

I had a post for tonight, but WordPress ate it. So, instead, enjoy some Tomoyo.

(Wedding ring… )

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  • Date : 10 July 2008
  • Categories : anime, fanservice, moe

160 responses to “wait, no “tomoyo meido” storyline?”

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (00:23:05, #162688) :

Huh? I thought the wedding ring only came up in Tomoyo after AFTER Tomoya gets hospitalized… Of course, this is all after all the majorly lasvicious scenes occured. And it was a plain ring too.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (00:26:33, #162689) :

(Yeah, Tomoya being a garbage collector in parallel run-run ‘Tomoyo After’ meant that the communal budget would be very minimal. At least in After Story, while still being blue-collar, being an electrician technically paid more.)

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (00:37:05, #162690) :

Not to derail things though Jason, any thoughts on the ultimatum placed on Gonzo by the Tokyo Stock Exchange, the annoucement of an anime adaptation of Umineko no Naku Koro Ni/When the Seagulls Cry (or simply When they Cry 2), or the fact that some Haruhi fans are seriously mixing up Ponytail Haruhi (from Disappearance) with Kyon?

(evidence to the last: http://sos-dan.org/img/src/1215371041615.jpg … Which is based on this one from the Newtype issue: http://sos-dan.org/img/src/1214882907548.jpg)

10 07 2008
Toboggan UNITED STATES (00:48:50, #162692) :

Suddenly I’m really looking forward to the Clannad OVA

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (00:52:56, #162693) :

Wish fulfillment, pfft.

10 07 2008
Versus (00:54:34, #162694) :

Soo, why did we get the Nagisa ending again … ?

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (01:01:45, #162695) :

Uh, because she’s the main girl? Not readily obvious in the game of course, as each ‘path’ occurs in a parallel ‘universe’ (a fact hammered home in the game’s World of Illusion segments), I’d think that KyoAni’s adaptation makes the reasons fairly obvious.

But that’s probably just me, as a non-fujoshi, non-moe enthusiast looking into the series.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (01:06:16, #162696) :

One more minor derailment to add (to the other small ones in my previous posting)… What does Jason think about the fact that the next KEY game after Little Busters (tentatively titled REWRITE) is going to be scripted by the guy who wrote the original Higurashi (and current Umineko) games? Given KyoAni’s partnership/symbiosis with KEY, uh…

10 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (01:49:19, #162697) :

Well….I can’t complain about the lack of miedo today.

And yea, Key-KyoAni REWRITE. I wonder. I wonder.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (02:56:53, #162698) :

I find the partnership of KEY and Ryukishi intriguing, if only for the fact that we’ll get something different from Jun Maeda’s writing for a change. No question, I absolutely loved CLANNAD and AIR (Little Busters less so), but his ‘crying game’ style gets tiring after a while.

Also, HRNGG… One of the pitfalls of working in an American brokerage firm is listening to people whine about how their stocks have been tanking for the past few weeks (BEAR MARKET!!). Well, CRY ME A RIVER, CHILD OF ANGST! The Philippine stock market ain’t doing too well either, so spare me.

So yeah, I needed to vent. Someday’s Dreamers: Summer’s Sky? Hidamari Sketch X365? YES PLEASE. Moe? Unless it’s something in the vein of Potemayo, pass.

Ugh, Haess was right, I am broken, but not in the way he defined it. Good thing I don’t have a chainsword right now…

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (03:21:28, #162699) :

Incidentally, Tomoyo in that pic… Half a meido is more like it, but I think that’s Jason’s point.

10 07 2008
EvilDevil UNITED STATES (03:47:47, #162700) :

*drools*

10 07 2008
Kouryuu JAPAN (04:25:16, #162701) :

Grr, Wordpress ate my post, so I will now include less links of goodness.

Anyways, Rewrite is going to written by four authors, Key’s in house scenario writer who’s worked since Kanon, Higurashi’s Ryuukishi, a new guy, and The famous (In the eroge world) Tanaka Romeo who’s biggest work available in english would be Yume Miru Kusuri, translated by Peach Princess.

With all these hands gathered, as well as the tagline on the main page for Rewrite, I expect it to both be extremely good as well as a fairly dark game. At the very least, I imagine it will be sad.

10 07 2008
W4 UNITED STATES (04:44:38, #162702) :

I have the sinking feeling that, within one week, we’ll see a post titled, “wait, no ‘angry ticks fire out of my nipples/Kogarashi’s mask/C.C.’s Pizza Hut Butt/[insert meme here]‘ storyline?”

Many thanks for the gratuitous Tomoyo pic, though. ^_^

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (04:54:36, #162703) :

Kouryuu: Well, isn’t it a point in Jun Maeda’s writing to make the reader CRY BUCKETS OF TEARS ™? :) So, yeah, a rather darker game in REWRITE would be a welcome change. I have to say though, which part of the story with Ryukishi handle?

KyoAni’s SURE to have dibs on this one, which will make countless watchers cry out in horror as FMP and Haruhi get pushed back even further in their schedule… >_>

10 07 2008
Beowulf Lee (06:38:52, #162706) :

Key’s main feature is their cry-wank style. Jun Maeda… come back!!!

10 07 2008
Syaoran Li (07:19:22, #162707) :

Well, next week Tomoyo’s OVA is out… we’ll see what KyoAni has done.

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (08:45:26, #162708) :

>> Ugh, Haess was right, I am broken, but not in the way he defined it. Good thing I don’t have a chainsword right now…

Myssa, why does your commenting pattern for this post remind me of Haess and a typical Mako-cakes post? But I think you are broken like anyone else here. Meido Tomoyo just tossed it over the line. Have we found your new threshold? Is Tomoyo both womanly and manly enough for you? Or is it still Kyonko?

(Kyoto’s project, after more Clannad, should be Mirai Nikki. That’s the correct choice.)

>> Soo, why did we get the Nagisa ending again … ?

Because anytime you can pick Sam Bowie over MJ, you gotta do it. I think.

For the record, I never said I hated Nagisa. I just don’t think she should be the end girl for Clannad. For Wind, Final Approach, H2O, sure, she’d make a wonderful end girl. Just not for Clannad. I’ve written this many times, and I have no clue why you guys think I hate Nagisa. Thinking that she does not deserve the #1 overall pick is very different from “hating” something.

>> Suddenly I’m really looking forward to the Clannad OVA

I’m looking forward to it as well, but I think I want to play Tomoyo After more.

10 07 2008
Syaoran Li (09:23:51, #162709) :

I’m with you Jason, I wna’t to play tomoyo after as well. Sadly, that will have to wait…

10 07 2008
Dissent (10:05:52, #162710) :

Nagisa is just a huge wet blanket. Anytime spent on her could be better spent on Tomoyo, Kyou, or Kotomi.

I think Kyoto would be a good fit for the Toradora anime, not that that’ll happen. Its not as typical a loli-tsundere rom-com as it initially seems.

Just as long as its not J.C. Staff.

I would also like to see them doing something that’s a little weird, a little out of left field.

People are going to watch what they animate, they have that kind of reputation. Why not use those powers for good?

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (10:24:47, #162711) :

Myssa- you are very broken… and a Tomoyo meido (well, half-meido - there wasn’t enough in the budget for the full thing) did it. Congratulations on posting like me on a Minami-ke post.

Jason- planetarian would make an interesting OVA, but I doubt that they’d do it - the only relationship there was well before the game began, and it only has one cute girl, so that’s out.

And isn’t Tomoyo After basically Key telling Tomoya that he is the Biggest Loser they’ve ever written?

10 07 2008
sage (10:38:39, #162712) :

or the fact that some Haruhi fans are seriously mixing up Ponytail Haruhi (from Disappearance) with Kyon?

Wait, is that a bad thing? :-?

10 07 2008
sage (10:59:03, #162713) :

I have to say though, which part of the story with Ryukishi handle?

Scenario, IIRC.

10 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (13:45:18, #162714) :

“the fact that some Haruhi fans are seriously mixing up Ponytail Haruhi (from Disappearance) with Kyon?”

Who’s confusing. We are intentionally changing that Haruhi into Kyon-chan. It is the Ponytailed Haruhi from behind (in a cameo from another series even) getting confused with Kyon-chan that is the debate for Saimoe.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (15:14:30, #162715) :

Haesslich: Planetarian, true, only encompasses one game, but it can easily fit into a two or three-part OVA, as there are two more stories that pick up after the man leaves the theatre (and is subsequently chased AGAIN by the machines): the old man’s story (if I’m remembering it right) and that of the two sisters.

10 07 2008
Dissent UNITED STATES (15:26:57, #162716) :

Wow…

Danbooru has 912 images for ‘kyonko’
‘asahina mikuru’=44
‘nagato yuki’=75
’school uniform’=431

Wow.

10 07 2008
Dissent UNITED STATES (15:28:55, #162717) :

uh nvm, i was looking at the wrong thing.
mikuru has like 1800.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (15:52:26, #162718) :

PS: Jason, this was the post you were thinking of? Haruka-neesama plus Hayami getting Kana with the scary eyes. Oh, and the Okawari preview.

Mmmm.

Myssa: Are you talking about the novel and the drama CD? Yes, those stories might get in… but then the storyline would be a tad more disjointed, and probably wouldn’t catch KyoAni’s interest, since it’s more sob than harem… and harem shows sell better. There’s the Junker storyline, the one of the kid who used to visit the planetarium, there’s the girls.. and then there’s that one with that employee, who follows Reverie when she goes off to do something, then the very ending one just before all hell breaks loose.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (16:00:36, #162719) :

Haesslich: More like a hard day at work. ;) No worries about being broken totally, yet. It’ll take a Wallstreet crash on the level of the one that preceded the Great Depression to break me (since I’d probably be out of work).

Ah Kyon, turn Mars into a Venus and people start scatching their heads… Did I ever mention the fact that, as of yesterday, my Seitenkan folder’s archive of images has fully overtaken everything else in my SOS-Dan folder? Even YUKI — which is funny, since the Yuki thread in Sos-dan.org has been cranking out images since the series started, and yet only recently broke the 13th page. The Genderswap thread hit its 12th page, but it’s been going only since November or so last year. ^^;

Now that is scary stuff.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (16:07:54, #162721) :

From a business standpoint, yeah, harems will sell better, as they do pander to the fantasies of non-adjusted socially-inept moe-starved otakus, but I wouldn’t count out Planetarian just yet. The studio might need another hit though to give them leeway in even producing it — must please the corporate sponsors first (Kadokawa I’m looking at you).

Still, the chance of Little Busters (and now REWRITE) being produced first is more likely. Which is a little sad… Oh well, can’t bite the hand that feeds you (too much)…

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (16:42:29, #162722) :

Myssa: There’s SO many things I could say… but I won’t. About work, and about the genderswap. ;)

But, going onto a safe topic… yes, the harems sell much better, and the stories in Planetarian as an OVA would be disjointed, and I can’t think of any series or OVA’s in recent memory which pulled that off successfully (same setting, four different stories, one character touching on all of them). It’d be like Yokohama Kaidaishi Kikou… which means it’d probably be panned as ‘too derivative’.

Basically, I don’t see Kadokawa or Kodansha, or anyone else allowing KyoAni any real leeway there - they’re more likely to put out FMP or more Haruhi and Lucky Star than anything else. If it’s Key, then it’s Rewrite or Little Busters.

10 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (17:24:08, #162723) :

Or Toei will put our a Planetarium movie and force the issue.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (17:29:16, #162724) :

Ithekro: God forbid.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (17:37:13, #162725) :

Haesslich: It gives us fans something to kill time with, and it’s an amusing diversion for a change. To Haruhiism, ’tis harmless, and as many people have pointed out before, genderswapping has been a staple of anime fandom since God-knows how long; It just took a while to catch on in Haruhi (probably because Haruhi, Mikuru, and Yuki push all the right otaku buttons).

The wierdness can only escalate though, with the introduction of Sasaki, Fujiwara, Kyoko, and Kuyo. Thank goodness that people haven’t decided on genderchanging THEM. Yet. One can only pray (that they don’t succeed — I’m personally horrified at seeing a male Kuyo).

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (17:43:49, #162726) :

Myssa: It also broke you, in a big way. It’s just the half-naked Tomoyo which got you into ranting mode, versus genderswapped Kyon. And now look at what’s happening to Jason - he’s jumping straight into BL, with a bit of prompting from Geass R2…

10 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (18:39:46, #162727) :

Some of use like the clarity of genderbending to traps. No questioning the gender of the character in question. No “Oh Geass NO!” moments there.

That said, their is a lack of Minami around. Haruka-nee-sama needs a lot more love.

Side note: Kana and Touma have pulled off respectible numbers for Saimoe already. I was surprised. Chiaki and Haruku should do even better, though I think people like “I AM BOSS”.)

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (19:21:57, #162728) :

(ノ゚-゚)ノ☆ DOZO!

Not exactly preaching to the crowd, but I do say I’m less confused about genderswapping than the way of the Trap. Regardless of what Haess meant in a previous argument about having to do a mental double-take, when the transition is goes on well enough with just the minimum required logical backflips, I don’t dwell on it. And face it, Kyon transitions well into a flat-chested girl with a ponytail, as his personality more or less survives intact (though I see some of the OH THE SHOUJO doujin that have come out so far makes me wonder a bit). It doesn’t work as well as, oh, with Setsuna F. Seiei for example.

Also, speaking as someone who actually works on the same floor as an ACTUAL trap, I tell you, it’s REALLY disturbing. Said trap possessing a Series 7 license is even MORE disturbing.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (19:28:44, #162729) :

Series 7 license? And I’ve worked with trannies before - no biggie, although there are some who look more feminine than others. And I do think that the damage that genderbending does can be… traumatic. Like, ‘breaks Jason into collecting BL’ type of trauma. ;)

Kyon’s very sarcastic. There’s characters who are male and who are female who’ve had similar personalities, so that’s nothing new. It’s just the heretical crossing of EVERYTHING which makes for problems…. like Jason-going-around-the-bend.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (19:33:49, #162730) :

There’s a more important question to be asked, anyways: if Touma and Mako-chan kiss, does it count as yuri or straight on Touma’s side, or yaoi/straight on Mako-chan’s?

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (19:42:39, #162732) :

Haesslich: It’s a brokerage license. In fact, it’s the bare minimum someone in the business of stock trading has to have in order to buy/seel/discuss/officially talk about anything even remotely connected to stocks. ;)

As for the Mako-chan/Touma question, unless they go under the knife somehow, I’d say it’s neither; it’ll be a very heterosexual (but WIERD) relationship.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (19:49:35, #162733) :

Yeah, you do not have to stress the fact that I work for a BROKE-rage firm. I try not to think about the illogical connotations of the semantics of my line of work.

To continue with the Mako-chan/Touma question… At most, without any physical modification of some sort, it comes something that, in comrade Crusader’s terminology, “ersatz yuri” or pseudo-yuri, as we’re all aware of the fact that Makoto is a boy (who just likes dressing up as a girl) and Touma is a girl (who speaks and dresses casually as a boy). Now, unless Makoto somehow loses all of the tubing associated to the male gender, then we can truthfully say that the situation would just SCREAM yuri. Though it makes one wonder who would be the soke and uke in that…

*coughs*

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (20:37:33, #162734) :

>> And isn’t Tomoyo After basically Key telling Tomoya that he is the Biggest Loser they’ve ever written?

Uh, no. Sunohara.

>> And now look at what’s happening to Jason - he’s jumping straight into BL, with a bit of prompting from Geass R2…

It’s not my fault that the anime I’m reviewing has more homoerotic overtones than the Ace and Gary DVD collection.

>> Or Toei will put our a Planetarium movie and force the issue.

They can have Planetarium. I’ve been reading up on Rewrite, and it seems intriguing. Has Key-VA become the Blizzard of visual novels? Or does Type Moon figure in there as well?

>> Now, unless Makoto somehow loses all of the tubing associated to the male gender, then we can truthfully say that the situation would just SCREAM yuri.

How did a post about meido Tomoyo turn into this… ? I feel like Dr. Oppenheimer: what have I done?!?

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (20:38:19, #162735) :

Ah. And well… if Mako-chan’s kissing Touma because she’s dressed boyishly, does that make him gay? Or just hetero with more twists than Jason after a Twister game?

And Mako-chan’s the uke. Definitely the uke. I’m sorry, but just look at how Kana and Chiaki effortlessly dominate him into all those weird situations (and outfits). Touma’s the one who’d wear the pants in that relationship, pun intended.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (20:49:11, #162736) :

Jason: How did a post about meido Tomoyo turn into this… ? I feel like Dr. Oppenheimer: what have I done?!?

That’s easy - you created this blog, then helped break readers… and you’re SURPRISED when a topic gets derailed when Myssa Rei and I are holding court in the middle of it? You really ought to get us Guest Blogger icons or something.

Or get her a Clannad-style school uniform. Or something. I’ll just steal Hosaka’s jacket and GOD belt.

Jason: Uh, no. Sunohara.

Eh… Tomoya chose Nagisa, gets depressed, gets a second chance.. and well… he loses anyways. Sunohara can’t have done worse than this, could he?

Jason: Or does Type Moon figure in there as well?

Look at the Kara no Kyoukai anime. I dare you to - it has a Shiki who’s sexy, and was never originally male, and much blood. I’d put Type-MOON up there as well, even if they’ve only a few things to their name. Key is like the Sunrise of VN’s (lots of product, lots of GOOD product, a few which are passable), while Type-MOON is like the KyoAni (not a lot of product out there, but great quality on all of it and they have a cult following).

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (20:52:13, #162737) :

Jason: It’s not my fault that the anime I’m reviewing has more homoerotic overtones than the Ace and Gary DVD collection.

And yes.. it IS your fault - you picked the shows, even knowing they were yaoi-fests last time (Code Geass). You made your bed of BL material - now lie in it. ;)

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (21:18:01, #162738) :

>> Sunohara can’t have done worse than this, could he?

Nah, there’s a happy end with Tomoya. And, unlike, Sunohara, at least girls dig him. Sunohara’s got nobody except the rugby team.

>> And yes.. it IS your fault - you picked the shows, even knowing they were yaoi-fests last time (Code Geass).

Nah, what else was I going to blog last season? Druaga disappointed and Kamen no Maid Guy can’t buy a sub. Macross Frontier ended up being okay, but out of all the shows, Code Geass still was the most entertaining.

To make it worse, I’m not liking any shows that I’ve seen this season. If Birdy is the best this season has to offer, you’re getting a steady diet of Code Geass posts. I’m hoping Detroit Metal City is good.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (21:21:32, #162739) :

You may as well just blog Antique Bakery and be done with it, Jason. At least there’s only ONE gay character there, versus the BL love-fest Geass is apparently turning into.

May I also suggest Hidamari Sketch 365 for the weirdness? It’s not Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, but it’s fun. Certainly better than half the stuff out there at the moment. Or you could just find some shojo/kosei show and blog that, to unbreak Myssa and Myself, only to break us in completely NEW ways.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (21:23:49, #162740) :

Heh, actually I’d think that Tomoya was pretty much a big loser, at least with regards to the professions he chose after graduating high school. In CLANNAD, he becomes an electrician, which as far as I know doesn’t really pay well unless you’re part of an established company; in Tomoyo After, it’s a garbage collector (!!). Sunohara, by comparison, is much MUCH more well-off, and while it’s pretty much alluded to that he becomes a salaryman when he goes back to Tokyo, at least he’s doing well for himself.

Heck, even Yuuichi from KANON had more going for him than Tomoya.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (21:26:49, #162741) :

I’d advise Jason to just continue with the shows he’s watching right now. As for myself, I added Hidamari Sketch X365, Slayers Revolution, and Someday’s Dreamers to Macross Frontier, Code Geass R2, Kyouran Kazoku Nikki, and Allison to Lillia to my schedule.

… What? My viewing tastes are pretty normal. Don’t give me that look.

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (21:37:29, #162742) :

Electricians aren’t paid badly at all. Hiring one to do some work is usually pretty expensive in CA. Payscale is a national average, and it’s still higher than the US median household income:

http://www.payscale.com/resear.....man/Salary

It’s about the same range as a paralegal or brokerage clerk. Though sanitation worker seems a bit off though.

Tomoya has a median income job… a loving significant other (x2)… that’s not bad. Life isn’t just about making $$$. Though Tomoya doesn’t have a wooden starfish Gundam.

>> Hidamari Sketch x365

Lucky Star minus Tsukasa and a cell phone… not sure if I want to go down this road again.

10 07 2008
FlameStrike UNITED STATES (21:43:00, #162743) :

Well Yuuichi picks Ayu which is much worse compared to Nagisa or Tomoyo. I don’t think we really know what he does after high school, but his grades don’t suck like Tomoya’s so he might get into college or atleast he won’t be a blue collar worker.

What DOES Sunohara do anyway? I know he ends up with some company but the details aren’t there lol. Anyway I don’t think Tomoya’s that bad off, if you consider the True end he’s a lot happier than Sunohara and a lot better off then if he married Tomoyo.

A good job is one thing but happiness =/= money.

Oh yeah while it sucks that there’s no Tomoyo meido storyline, I think in the PS2 version of Tomoyo After you can get her to wear a meido outfit XD. Also in the After Story there really is a Nagisa meido sub-plot of sorts O.o;

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (21:46:55, #162744) :

>> I think in the PS2 version of Tomoyo After you can get her to wear a meido outfit

Why was I not informed about this before!?

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (21:51:27, #162745) :

Well, Nagisa goes off and starts working full-time as a waitress in a cafe (mirroring Maaka in Karin, if one goes by the last volume of the manga) — in fact, Tomoya and her dad often drop by to tease her about it (yeah, no Angel Mort outfit, but I thought it was pretty cute). As for Tomoyo After, uh, not really, but we get to see Tomoyo in the bear costume again.

I’d have to say that happiness does mitigate the sucky choice of after-graduation profession, but c’mon…

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (21:57:32, #162746) :

I thought the big kicker which starts Tomoyo After was Nagisa dies and Tomoya goes alcoholic, like his dad… and ends with him dying ANYWAYS, despite picking Tomoyo. Seriously, nothing says butt-monkey like that, not even picking Ayu.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (21:57:47, #162747) :

Yup. Spoiler tag FAILED.

10 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (22:01:18, #162748) :

yep failure….but at least we have miedo.

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (22:01:52, #162749) :

No, man, just you fail. :)

It’s spoiler not spoilers to use the tag.

10 07 2008
Hedric UNITED STATES (22:02:31, #162750) :

I feel like inserting a random comment into your 3-way discussion…

The series Dissent picked would be entertaining to be sure (Mysterious Girlfriend X and Sundome)… if a bit too ecchi for any time but early early morning JST, but I think Toradora should definitely be put back a LONG LONG time, because it’s definitely another Rie tsundere role, and has so many ZnT overtones that it practically screams copyright infringement. I can’t even read the translations at baka-tsuki without thinking of Saito/Louise every time the two main characters have an exchange.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (22:02:40, #162751) :

… not in Tomoyo After. Nor in Clannad. I feel like Hecate from the “Konoe Strikes Back” short now.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:03:30, #162752) :

Jason: Ouch, low blow, as I work for a brokerage firm myself. :P

I earn comparitively well though, if one considers the fact that minimum wage here in the Philippines is around 125 Php per day; I earn around 865 Php per day, which more or less equals around 9,450 Php (without taxes) every 15th and 30th (a total of around 18,900 a month). Admittedly it’s not much when compared to US standards, but for the common Filipino, one can only earn that much by either leaving to work abroad, being a professional like a doctor or engineer, or by having lots and lots of sidelines/investments. ;)

It’s enough to live comfortably in the upper middle-class strata, with enough to spare for whatever stuff is left over after savings and bills are paid. Admittedly I’m still single, but I’m in no rush yet.

10 07 2008
Hedric UNITED STATES (22:05:01, #162753) :

testing 123

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:10:05, #162754) :

Haesslich: Nope, Tomoyo After happens parallel with After Story, since it picks up a year or so AFTER Tomoya graduates from high school. After Story has a time skip of around 3-5 years (Ushio’s age), and we see some of the supporting (Kyou and Ryou specificially, since Kyou is Ushio’s teacher) cast grown up and working themselves.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:10:52, #162755) :

Nnnnng, spoiler tag failure!

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (22:13:07, #162756) :

still, with the way THAT game went, it’s like he’s the worst of Key’s harem-masters in terms of fate. Most of them actually GET a happily ever after. This? Well, at least it’s not Planetarian.

Myssa: Single, but horribly, terribly broken. ;) And isn’t mentioning single status on the Internet (especially in a blog like this) like setting up a ’stalk_OK’ flag for otaku?

hedric: What is the unladen wing speed of an African sparrow?

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:19:47, #162757) :

Is it male or female? :P

Kidding aside, I have to thank the fact that anime geekery and stalking don’t generally go hand-in-hand in the Philippines, so I’m safe (plus I’m incognito at cons). THAT only defines spoiled children of government officials.

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (22:22:11, #162758) :

>> And isn’t mentioning single status on the Internet (especially in a blog like this) like setting up a ’stalk_OK’ flag for otaku?

Well, I’m guessing Myssa thinks that by now, most readers would have either been derailed by Tomoyo or be scared off by the 30 Mako-cakes-related comments that proceeded this.

>> it’s not much when compared to US standards

How much does an average 3 bedroom house cost in the Philippines? For Silicon Valley, it’s about US$700,000. Cost of living is a lot higher.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:29:14, #162759) :

Jason: It really depends, but your average house and lot (the stuff you don’t find in the city) cost really low by American standards. Some of our US bosses who visit here joke about being able to buy a house and lot (lot size 176 square meters, modest really) for 1.3 million Php… Which is around 28,000 USD.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:34:44, #162760) :

Of course, the cost of living in Metro Manila is much higher… To give you an idea, the 2-floor, 2-bedroom apartment my family lived in for most of my life (which my mom and dad bought the deed to, but only the part we lived in — our landlords were greedy grubbers I tell you) cost a grand total of 1.5 mil Php or so, and they’d been saving for several years at that point. My sister and I am kind of outgrowing the place, but the plus side of it all is the fact that it’s close enough to the International Airport that we’ve become sort of the port of call for all our relatives arriving from abroad/leaving for work abroad.

10 07 2008
n MALAYSIA (22:41:37, #162761) :

I like how, 60 comments and almost 24 hours later, this post has been derailed outright. Cheap ASEAN real-estate FTW!

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (22:42:49, #162762) :

Jason: Well, I’m guessing Myssa thinks that by now, most readers would have either been derailed by Tomoyo or be scared off by the 30 Mako-cakes-related comments that proceeded this.

Well, not ALL the perverts who come here are derailed by Tomoyo, as evidenced by everyone who voted for lolis in the polls for the past year… of which there were 28% of them. :P And she’s already mentioned other things which are kinda fetish-points for otaku. Seriously, some of those fuckers are SCARY… in a pathetic way, granted, but I’d still suggest arming oneself.

Myssa: I think I recall you from the Megatokyo forums as well, IIRC. Among others, including EFML and the old Evafics.org…

Yup, ancient, we are.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (22:44:37, #162763) :

n: I like how, 60 comments and almost 24 hours later, this post has been derailed outright. Cheap ASEAN real-estate FTW!

This is Myssa Rei and myself. We can derail Jason any day of the week. Maybe it’s time he changed the blog name…

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (22:47:55, #162764) :

My only goal really is to make enough money so I can pull a Yoshitaka with a giant mansion in Atherton (or Maui). But it doesn’t look likely since with this crappy economy, my stock options aren’t doing very well.

>> Seriously, some of those fuckers are SCARY…

Well, you scared me when you flooded my inbox with Mako-cakes.

>> We can derail Jason any day of the week

Whatever. I don’t get derailed easily. My posts, on the other hand…

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (22:56:39, #162765) :

And Tomoyo? Pft, give me Hosaka anytime.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (23:17:37, #162766) :

Jason: Well, you scared me when you flooded my inbox with Mako-cakes.

According to the Sent Items folder, I derailed with more Haruka than Mako-cakes. Whatever floats your boat, though.

Jason: Whatever. I don’t get derailed easily. My posts, on the other hand…

… says the guy who was derailed from Black Lagoon Symmetrical Meido Docking by a Shanatan melonpan pic.

Myssa Rei: And Tomoyo? Pft, give me Hosaka anytime.

DONE. Will these do?

http://img184.imageshack.us/im.....mihux1.jpg
http://img122.imageshack.us/im.....kapfe1.png

10 07 2008
feRfe UNITED STATES (23:21:41, #162767) :

http://kurogane.animeblogger.n.....hosaka.jpg
douzo

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (23:22:01, #162768) :

>> … says the guy who was derailed from Black Lagoon Symmetrical Meido Docking by a Shanatan melonpan pic.

What are you talking about? Shana-tan has no melonpan. You’ve gone off the deep end.

Never trust a guy who digs up Hosaka images in 5 minutes.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (23:28:28, #162769) :

Jason: What are you talking about? Shana-tan has no melonpan. You’ve gone off the deep end.

This:
http://derailedbydarry.com/ima....._13_HD.jpg

See request stemming from comment here in the Shana-tan: Konoe Strikes Back thread.

Jason: That’s it Haess, I’m dumping the Black Lagoon girls– I want that first picture vectored and made into my new desktop in the most adorable way possible.

The derailing of that post began after I mentioned the Symmetrical Docking, then you asked for Shanatan wallpapers.

And I keep an extensive Minami-ke folder. Including all those Haruka shots I sent from the pool episode.

10 07 2008
Haesslich CANADA (23:31:11, #162770) :

PS: It’s amazing how many Haruka shots I have, versus Kana or Chiaki shots. But… she is indeed amazing.

Myssa: Let me know if you need more derailing.

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (23:34:59, #162771) :

Ha ha! Good thing my work IP blocks Imageshack links. Haess, you are one scary, scary person…

And, oh, Shana does uguu~

http://myssa.teri-chan.net/Images/Shana03.jpg

Oh yeah. Who’s you’re loli now?

http://myssa.teri-chan.net/Images/Shana04.jpg

And bandages. De-arimasu.

http://myssa.teri-chan.net/Images/Shana09.jpg

10 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (23:39:45, #162772) :

Just to bring things back to all things meido: Wilhemina. De arimasu.

http://myssa.teri-chan.net/Images/Shana24.jpg

http://myssa.teri-chan.net/Images/Shana12.jpg

10 07 2008
jason UNITED STATES (23:40:45, #162773) :

Pffft, that’s just melon-flavored bread. I’m talking melonpan.

(And how is that considered a derailment? The post was about Shana-tan anyway.)

10 07 2008
Syaoran Li (23:43:25, #162774) :

I guess it’s time again…

Like both of you had pointed out, despite what kind of job you do, the important thing is that you can be happy with it. For example, I’m fine with my low-government position for the moment. I’d a good salary, maybe it doesn’t allow me to have everything I need or want at the moment, but is enough to live relativity fine over here. The only thing I regretted is all the money I spent last year in useless things, otherwise, the trip to this year’s Anime Expo in LA couldn’t have been a reality.

Now, following the original topic (lost about 60 posts ago); I agree with the opinion that Tomoya’s the weakest male lead in Key’s works. Despite the “happy end” he had with Nagisa, everything else seemed too weak (or so I read here and there). In the anime, he picked up Nagisa because she was the one he spent time the most; he knew Kyou and Ryou from a long time, were childhood friends with Kotomi-chan and knew how to handle Tomoyo. I don’t know if KyoAni made the right choice with Nagisa, but this time I couldn’t agreed with them (I did it with Ayu for various reasons).

By the way, the moment you step over here, it means you’re broken from the beginning…

10 07 2008
Minikui (23:50:47, #162775) :

What about Slayers? XD To me that’s the best series of the season so far. I also still have hopes for Blade of the Immortal. Apart from that, yep, Birdy is the best. And Otakus might like Haruka’s secret.

And are you still watching Kaiba? It has turned away from the episodic stories, and imho it keeps getting better with each episode.

Oh, and was Roberta included in the Maid Pantheon?

10 07 2008
Syaoran Li (23:57:59, #162776) :

I almost forgot…

Today on my way home, I was listening to a cell phone conversation on the bus and couldn’t hold some giggles, like everyone else on the bus, when the guy started to talk about revenge and humiliate those “bitches” that betrayed “him”. Everyone was laughing so shamelessly and yet he didn’t minded at all; so I told myself “Well, at least I’m not the only one broken here”.

Now that I think about it, when did I break again? Never mind, the only think I certainly know is that I was already broken before meeting you guys.

11 07 2008
Myssa Rei UNITED STATES (00:19:24, #162777) :

Jaaaaaaaaaaason… Again, to steer things to something even remotely connected to Meido, do watch the following vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM4NYOIE9Vs

Dancing meido? Getto!

11 07 2008
Syaoran Li (00:41:13, #162778) :

Thanks Myssa Rei, you just gave me one more reason to see this series. Damn it, I need the RAW right now….

11 07 2008
Ithekro UNITED STATES (01:50:20, #162780) :

Serious derailment is serious. Fortunately it is a broken derailment, so situation normal.

Needs more Haruka is Amazing.

11 07 2008
feRfe UNITED STATES (02:39:25, #162783) :

皆保坂君がすきですね

11 07 2008
Versus (03:33:07, #162784) :

@Myssa Rei & Jason:

Please don’t get the wrong impression, I do not hate Nagisa or anything. I also understand, she is the main girl, the one with the best story in the game and everything …

It’s just as someone who never played the game and only saw the anime version, she is the one at least interesting for me (jeah, even lower than Fuko - the last episode of her arc was awesome). Maybe I would change my mind, if I would play the actual game, but then again we are talking about the anime here, not the much referred game.

But then it was intended as an rhetorical question anyway oO

11 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (03:47:39, #162785) :

Versus: In nomen of Deus Empress , subsisto vestri inrideo! Ordo Nagisa summitto quam Fuuko? Vos es aut caecus vel simplex operor non intellectum. Nagisa’s simplicity est suus rectum!

11 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (03:49:14, #162786) :

Is est totus in bonus humor , mens vos , tamen vindico ut Nagisa est vel magis boring quam FUUKO? * infirmo caput capitis *

11 07 2008
Myssa Rei PHILIPPINES (03:56:14, #162787) :

… I think I had a WH40k siezure.

Maa ii, I can understand why folk might not float the moe modes of other people. *shakes head* Much like how some childhood friends get the short end of the relationship stick, the plain and ‘normal’ girl often gets passed over as well.

11 07 2008
Minikui (06:25:14, #162788) :

I suppose the problem with Clannad TV is that they split it into 2 seasons, they should have just shown it all at once. Because Nagisa really only develops some character in the after story. Also they really concentrated too much on the most boring characters, ie Kotomi and Fuko, who got more than half of the season for them. while Kyou, Ryou and Tomoyo only got a few episodes all together - eventhough they’re way more interesting ^^
And it was quite annoying how they made drama out of things that really aren’t a big deal -_- the Clannad movie handles this a lot better. But that one deals with Nagisa only and also includes the after story.

I have to agree that Nagisa is less boring than Fuko, but Fuko is just so much more annoying XD

11 07 2008
Minikui (06:26:40, #162789) :

ugh I meant Fuko is less boring than Nagisa ^^;;

11 07 2008
Kaisos CANADA (07:20:18, #162790) :

>>In the anime, he picked up Nagisa because she was the one he spent time the most;

No, he picked her because he loved her… unlike in the game, he had no feelings for any of the other girls except for maybe Kotomi.

And yeah, his job in AS isn’t so bad. His job in TA, however, is utter suck.

>>Thank goodness that people haven’t decided on genderchanging THEM. Yet.

Yes, yes we have. Kuyoh looks like School Rumble’s Karasuma with slightly longer hair, by the way.

11 07 2008
ubu UNITED STATES (08:14:01, #162791) :

Spam protection ate my post last night, pre-derail, when this was much more timely:

I’m with you Jason, I wna’t to play tomoyo after as well. Sadly, that will have to wait…

I’m not waiting until after. I hate sloppy seconds. Although, if I stare at that pic much longer, she could probably make me change my mind….

11 07 2008